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Bryan
Hagerty Employee

Will Paul Walker’s classic ’69 Mustang be a Boss at auction?

Paul Walker is the new Steve McQueen of auto auctions—on a much lesser scale, of course—in that his name carries a lot of clout when his vehicles cross the block. Look no further than January 2020, when 21 of Walker’s cars and motorcycles sold for $2.33 million at Barrett-Jackson’s Scottsdale Auction.

 

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https://www.hagerty.com/media/auctions/will-paul-walkers-classic-69-mustang-be-a-boss-at-auction/

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Theskate
Passenger

Ridiculous, Paul Walker is/was no Steve McQueen and 5 years from now no one will even remember who he was.....a premium for a nobody?

Greg_I
Advanced Driver

I disagree with you there. To anyone under 40, Paul Walker is idolized like McQueen is to older generations. He was a legitimate car collector and enthusiast like McQueen. Most of his collection came up for sale back in January and sold for prices much higher than what average market is. Granted, his muscle cars did not bring the premium that his European and Japanese cars did, because those are not the type of cars his on screen character drove. I don't expect you to understand the draw to Paul Walker, because I am guessing you grew up on McQueen, Burt Reynolds and Paul Newman. Keep in mind that for younger enthusiasts, Paul is the next McQueen. I don't say that to be inflammatory, but as fact, whether or not this is something you agree with. This by no means diminishes McQueen's legacy.

RedlineGuy
New Driver

I think it's obvious that you underestimate the effect that Paul Walker has had on a younger generation than ours. And in that sense I agree with what you're saying ironically, but it's because McQueen has been so romanticized over the years and we, who grew up with him can't see anyone attaining his level. It's like saying Barry bonds was no Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron. He wasn't, but for his time he was the best.

NordMann
Passenger

You’re just wrong, because you haven’t learnt from history. I grew up late McQueen, but have read up on him. Super cool dude! But like the dude before him, James Dean, which has mostly left our collective mind, so will McQueen, in 20-30yrs time. And the legacy of Paul Walker will strengthen over these next 20-30yrs, before he too will be forgotten. McQueen is in the perfect timeline to be idolized right now. Dean has passed it. Walker will get there.

sorrktm
Pit Crew

Amen NordMann! As we used to say back in the day, "Take a chill man!". I don't understand why people take things and celebrity status so personally. There's no money coming out of my pocket personally (and none going in!) and the status of a persons celebrity makes no difference in my life so I take them for what they are...some amusement or distraction from everyday. Period. I grew up enjoying McQueen's work and especially his motorcycle racing career. I also enjoy the F & F movies but think the chase scene in Bullitt is the best. Ask a millennial about that movie and you'll probably get a blank stare. Doesn't make one better than the other, just different era's.

Maestro1
Instructor

This is absurd. I am not a fan of auctions nor Fast and Furious movies, although I've seen a few to find out what all the noise was about. The kids need to grow up.

Still443
Intermediate Driver

I enjoy auctions and I accept F&F movies for what they are. If I was to have to grow up, I'd have to stop playing with cars.

Cool-isAmerican
Pit Crew

Don't know how old you are (I might well be older) but come on dude is it really productive in ANY WAY to trash the current generation of car guys?? Look I am the first one to say I don't see any attraction to all this BMW stuff but they do.....SO WHAT!!!.... its their version of the old muscle cars  we loved then and now. I have a 1967 Ford Fairlane that I have far to much money into already and I am sure many of the younger generation would say WTF man because they don't get us any more than we do them but they still like playing with toys just like we have for many years. Let them have their time, by and large ours is over so just chill!!!

Greg_I
Advanced Driver

Nope, the Fast and Furious movies aren't Oscar material, but they're great entertainment. One could easily argue that without the chase scene, Bullitt was a terrible film. I think anyone who has love for the film as a whole is tainted by nostalgia. That in mind, it is no less of a necessary watch as a car person as the original F&F films are.
Maze
Passenger

In the 60's Steve McQueen was the King of Cool, no question, he had a troubled youth and spent a lot of time in reform schools which may have helped chisel some of his persona.

Paul Walker is idolized in the current generation, and most likely there will be someone else in the next generation to come.

I would like to add an important differentiating factor.  Paul was a philanthropist.  He personally formed "Reach Out Worldwide" .    Its things like this that may continue his legacy in generations to come.

Watersmeet
Pit Crew

These could well be the least intelligent posts of the last year or two. Who gives a **bleep**??  I'm unfamiliar with  Paul's work.  That doesn't mean I have anything against him. I'm very familiar with THE KING OF COOL, and enjoyed his work. That doesn't mean he was a giant among Men.

This whole deal reminds me of the "Which are you a Chevy or Ford man?" question. There is know answer. Unless your a MOPAR guy.

Wake up and enjoy both of these guys. 

Jim

avideo
Intermediate Driver

A very original car with low miles and owned by a newly deceased celebrity as well. And as the owner of a 1969 Shelby GT350 - I also spotted an original factory AC compressor in the engine compartment -making this car even more rare; since I doubt many cars like this were equipped with AC. 

     If this car doesn't set a record for it's type I will be very surprised. Oh and even as an old fart now in my mid-70s, I do enjoy the "Fast and Furious" Films. They aren't just for the younger generation. 

B9
Passenger

Where exactly do you see an A/C compressor under the hood of that BOSS 429 ?

I looked and I still have the BOSS 429 I bought when I was 18 and there is no room for A/C and it was never offered. Mine is also Raven Black and Ford only made 93 in that color

Bokeoyaji
Intermediate Driver

The smog pump and the oil cooler might look like A/C system, somewhat...

MattK
Detailer

No listing For A/C on the MECUM website under the cars Options.

 

shoulderboards
Intermediate Driver

I believe what avideo is referring to in the engine compartment of the Boss are the belt-driven A.I.R. pump  and the power steering pump.  Boss 429 and Boss 302 models were not offered with factory a/c.

Wedgehead
Pit Crew

So you can have said car valued at say 25 grand,but,a certain human owned it and now it's worth  2 million? Never understood that,it's the same **bleep** car

Wedgehead
Pit Crew

So,said vehicle could be valued at say 25 grand,but a certain human once owned it,now it's worth 2 million? It's the same car....never understood this.

JOEYSAN
New Driver

Seven Figures......

1320metalman
New Driver

No doubt Paul Walker was loved by many and hadent as an actor.  Im not sure Walker was the consummate car guy before F&F made him into one.

McQueen on the other hand took his love for Bikes & Cars and tried to find ways to get it onto the big screen.

McQueen rode many bike brands,  but my fondness of his legacy lies in his love for Husqvarna's out in the desert.

 Of coarse his love for automobiles turned out to be bigger too me once I was @an age which I could drive a fast car myself.  The Boss 429 shows much more taste in the eyes of anyone born in the 50s or 60s.  As the 250hp max effort 4cyl cars of the F&F franchise do little to nothing for most of us who grew up w/V8 powered cars of nearly any

make/model.  That said,  the Boss 9 is truely a McQueen "style" car,  as nothing short of a Hemmroid Cuda rivals it in true on street performance.   When they did the muscle car competition on 1 of the TV cable shows,  using many categories,  it came down to the Boss 9 and the 454 Chevelle if I recall correctly.   The last of many contest's was the "burnout". 

 

Athough the Boss had the best 1/4 mile time of all, cars tested,   the Chevelle

( or the GTO Big Blk Judge, cant fully recall now)

scored better in either slalom/braking, or both.  But the Top loader and the +- real 500 ft lbs of torque of the "Shotgun",  along w/the C/R Toploader 4 spd,  had outdone the other beautiful cars in that final event, as the judges said no Real muscle car is credible w/o a quality tire roasting show.

Im not gonna try to compare the 2,  as I hav respect for both in there acting skills.  But when it comes to true race driver talent,  yrs of motorcycle prowess,  and also philanthropy ( as McQueen gave bk to his childhood boys home on many occasions,   therecis NO COMPARISON between these 2 genuine car guys.  Steve has that title hands down.... but you will never convince the kids who love to watch the F&F characters literally fly thru the air outside an automobile threw the air over 4 lanes of hwy,  that what they are watchibg is just a different version of a Marvel's own Superhero franchises.

You would never see McQueen doing things that only Iron man could survive in a fantasy world.   Paul was as close as the kids today will get to Steve.  And so they can only see him as the real car guy of there generation.   Steve made cars/bikes apart of his movies.

Paul made his movie car guy persona apart of his everyday life w/the big paychecks from F&F.  If Steve had Walkers money in his day,  he'd likely burn his own.  Just as what Babe Ruth made in $$$ w/ not realky compare to Barry or Big Mac.

Just as the Boss 429 was deemed the ultimate Muscle car overall,  so is Steve McQueen dubbed the ultimate car guy who acted for a living.  James Dean,  besides his horrible accident in his Porsche,   wasnt much of a car guy,  but was considered extremely cool.

Maybe even cooler than Steve to many,  who lived to enjoy both talents.

Paul is still a wonderful person and will be known as a car guy.  But you would never hav seen him on a 400cc WR Husky riding a wheelie across the Mohave,   structly for fun...not for the paparazzi or the photo chute.

Steve raced REAL RACING CARS IN REAL EVENTS,  AS DID Paul Newman.

Who was possibly as much ir more a racer than Steve.  Paul played the part in real life once F&F personified him as a car nut.  Which many people, not just WALKER,   who get a bank account full of expendable cash,  buy up Barrett & Mecum quality cars once they can afford them.  The fact Paul met his horribly unfortunate demise in a fast car cements his legacy,  in an unfortunate way.

Will Ford Motor Company,   or more suitable, BMW or Subaru,   build Paul Walker tribute cars over the next few decades?  Who knows. 

 We do know there hav been 3 generations of Steve McQueen Bullitt mustangs and other variats from Steeda involving his kids.  Walkers family is/was trying to sue the car manufacturers and the other involved people, as related to his death by auto accident,  for more money than they already were getting from his both his legacy ,  policys of insurance,  and future royalties from past franchise revenue.  That sorta turns off manufacturers from wanting to memorialize a man by solidification of his legacy thru a tribute production car,  I think we all could agree.

Paul wasnt a poser.  But Steve was so far from it,  he would piss icecubes cuz he was so cool on a bike or in a car,  doing as much driving as he could con his way into via studio and directors allowances.  He was the real deal.

But kids today will think Paul drove his own cars in many scenes involving standard stunt talent.  Maybe he would have if insurance would hav allowed.

Steve likely would hav walked off the set if he didnt get his way on at least some car stunt driving.  Why?  Cuz driving fast was more important to him than the movie making process. 

F&F is entertaining,   but far from reality.

Rest in peace all those mentioned here.

You are all deserving of your love of fast machinery. 

Nuff said

2112
Pit Crew

Regardless of who owned it, it is one desirable B9.