Yes with a topic like this it is difficult not to be political. The truth is if you go there the Democrat's have dirty fingers now embracing this and in the past the Republicans have pushed this to garner Farm votes in the mid west.
Biden right now has given over to the Green supporters the the future of his administation. What he did not expect was the situation with the Ukraine and oil prices rising as fast as they.
He expected some increases after his executive decrees when he took office by killing pipe lines and tying up drilling permits. But the Ukraine war has thrown gas on the fire you could say.
He is trying not to fail his money people that got him elected but he is seeing everything else crumble around him.
He can not blame the previous admin for this and people are no longer buying the Putin claims.
Will he cave of will he keep us stuck with higher prices? What worries me is unless the price of oil globally drops it will continue to feed Putin's war machine as it lives on Russian oil and gas prices.
If we just move to open up more permits and pipe lines the market will react to the futures drive the market down as oil is a traded commodity like Gold or Silver and it reacts to future supply and demand.
Not "blame the current administration?" Are you SERIOUS? Can you explain how and why we no longer are an oil exporter? Do you not think that anti-oil regulations from the Biden administration have nothing to do with the supply of oil and oil products?
The administration brings uncertainty to business which is why they are reluctant to do exploratory drilling on already leased land. One big reason is that the Fed is appointing people that are ideological on the environment and believe that the Fed should actively discourage big banks from lending to oil companies. Even if they say they are not watching this now, this investment in exploration is long term and if lending can be tighter in the future, the oil companies are hesitant to invest.
Heaven forbid we should tackle the overarching problem, the biggest threat to i.c. cars, what a 2013 poll of 2,000 UN scientists, and 11/5/2019 poll of 11,000 scientists in Bloomberg News showed in agreement, that overpopulation is by far our biggest problem, their words "bigger than climate."
According to UN and other vetted studies, animals raised for meat and dairy produce more greenhouse gas than all the world's cars, trucks,buses, trains, planes, ships combined.
But easier to play us/them instead of grabbing the bull by the horns.
Your comments on the evils of alcohol need to be qualified. The alcohol you mention only relate to methanol - not ethanol. You are correct that methanol will degrade aluminum components if left in the system. You are incorrect with the assumption that ethanol is the same alcohol. It is not. The chemical descriptions are completely different, which makes the rest of your comments - and that's what these assumptions are - comments suspect. Your information is not backed with facts. Yes, alcohols in general tend to affect rubber lines differently - ethanol is a dry fuel with fewer lubricants. But frankly rubber lines that are compatible with ethanol are easy to find and even easier to change. There should be a minimum of rubber lines in any car and something that should be maintained like any other consummable component. There are literally at least five or six different grades of "rubber" fuel lines - some cheap and some very good. But they are all consummable. So there's no issue with rubber. Ethanol is not the evil component in the fuel as you surmise. It is - and these are facts not opinions - that ether components like toluene, xylene, ethyl-benzene are the real evils and exist in all gasoline - they are called aromatics in levels of around 20-25% in all gasolien sold around the country. Look it up - do your own research - don't just believe my statements. Then look up what these aromatics do to components in older cars. Yes - if you leave a fuel to dry out in your carburetor in an older car, there will be damage from water that creates the aluminium oxide - that white stuff. This corrosion comes from water that collects in the fuel - any fuel - not just fuel with ethanol. Frankly, most enthusiasts have been duped by a constant barrage of false narratives from the petroleum industry that ethanol is the evil fuel. It is not. Yes, you should take prcautions and do preventative maintenance - but that comes with the territory of owning older cars. To blame the ethanol as the Great Evil is shortsighted. I did a test for one year immersing a Holley metering block in E85 - allowing it to evaportate - dry out and then immersing it again. I did this for an entire year. Nothing happened. No corrosion, no damage even to small strips of naked aluminum strips that were also included. Now if I had added water to this mixture, likely damage would have occurred. So the evil is water - condensation forming in systems that are allowed to sit unattended and corrode. Is that the fault of the ethanol? The corrosion is caused by the wter allowed to sit in the fuel system. Also, your contention that food prices will rise because we're using another 5 percent more ethanol in fuel is not quite acurate. Do you know that corn yields in Iowa alone have increased almost 50% since 2004? Look it up. That is a fact. Food prices are on the rise because energy prices are up radically - and ethanol costs LESS than gasoline - not more. So adding 5% mor ethanol should reduce prices. I don't expect to change your mind with these facts. I expect that if you read this - you will merely come back with some sort of personal attack - which is the usual response in these situations. I do hope that others will read this counterpoint and then perhaps do their own reserach and make their own decisions rather than blindly believe opinions rather then facts.
... and a related question: Does corn based ethanol result in lower carbon emissions than petroleum based fuel? My guess is "no". Between having diesel-fueled tractors make multiple passes to plow, plant, spray and harvest the corn, and then factor factor in transportation and distillation (all of which are oil-fueled), I can't imagine that less carbon gets released to the atmosphere over the full lifecycle of ethanol.
Thank you, MPH168, for trying to introduce quantifiable facts on the usual torches and pitchforks forum. Even Al Gore admits our ethanol a boondoggle, environmental waste. Marv68 is right about instead using agwaste, switch grass, as Brazil does, a nation that's never been at war in two centuries, not that they're angels.
Henry Ford intended his Model T and Fordson tractor, by 1920 comprising half the vehicles and tractors on the world's roads and fields, to run on agwaste ethanol. But John D. Rockefeller controlled over 85% of all US bulk oil shipments, so with gas a dime a gallon, infrastructure in place, Ford went along. Had he bucked, likely GM, Maxwell, Reo, Chalmers, Auburn, Dodge, Packard, Pierce and the rest of the industry would've followed.
While we prefer straight gasoline, none of my prewar Packard, Pierce, Cadillac, Cord, Delahaye, Buick, Railton, Hudson, Lagonda, Auburn pals have had a problem with ethanol gas, these immaculate cars driven not trailered like beached whale carcasses, and tho' slightly off subject, once and for all: inline engines do not "vapor lock." Old Ford, Cad/LaSalle, Cord V-8s can because the carb's smack in the midst of a heat sink.
According to a 2013 poll of 2,000 UN scientists and another 11,000 scientists reported in the 11/5/19 Bloomberg News, their whelming consensus is that our biggest by far problem is overpopulation, their words: "bigger than climate."
This is the threat to our internal combustion cars.
UN and other vetted studies show animals raised for meat and dairy produce more greenhouse gas than all the world's cars, trucks, buses, trains, planes, ships combined.
If we're serious about preserving a nation, world where we can still take our i.c. alter egos out for a cruise, we should do everything in our power to promote education, contraceptives, adoption, and a vegan diet, the latter hardly slowing the world's leading Formula One driver, Lewis Hamilton, and 77-year-old rocker rodder Jeff Beck.
We now return to our barroom rants, already in progress.