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The $45K Question: Would you buy a new Z or one of its collectible forebears?

One of the best things about the new Nissan Z, which I recently reviewed, is how it deftly incorporates traits of several previous Zs. In particular, it pays tribute to its earliest ancestor, the 240Z, as well as the most tech-forward iteration, the 1990-96 300ZX.
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fueledbymetal
Advanced Driver

Of the choices, I’ll take the new. I always loved the earlier cars in period, but after the original they became softer and/or maintenance nightmares until the 350Z. But the sports car I’d really spend $45k now on would be the nicest Cayman or Boxster I could find.
hyperv6
Racer

240z all day any day. 

Boxster screams I can’t afford the 911. 

Tim
Technician

So what? Every car screams that you can't afford a more expensive car then. 911 screams, "I can't afford the Turbo or GT3 RS" (or whatever). Maybe the Boxster is all the car fueledbymetal wants or needs.
Inline8OD
Technician

Absolutely.   Not everyone has the dire need to one up their neighbors or strangers at stoplights, preferring just enough car for themselves.

JerV8Flat4
Intermediate Driver

Boxster and Cayman scream “I want a mid-engined Porsche sports car and don’t need to impress the ignorati with a bigger, heavier Look At Me GT.”
kingandeverhard
Pit Crew

I've had a 280Z since 1976. Can't I just get a new Z to keep it company??
exc911ence
Pit Crew

It would depend on what I was buying the car for. If it was destined to be a weekend toy, the 240Z would win. If I was for a new daily driver, new would be the way to go.
thesaw
Pit Crew

WHY DOES THE 350Z ALWAYS GET IGNORED?
ThePorscheMan
Detailer

Average performance but mostly because it's FUGLY.
Rider79
Technician

Not really...
Tim
Technician

Given the same price for an old, old classic or a new car, I'm likely going new every time. Unless we're talking about a really rare beauty, like a vintage Ferrari (but then, that's going to be many times more expensive than new).

So, I'd take the new Z over any of the prior versions. A new Bronco over any of the old. Etc.
Iso_Grifo
Instructor

I like the 300ZX the best because it has an original design feel to it, while the original Z always feels derivative to me. The 300ZX has also aged well.

I have to say to say that I really do like the new car quite a bit, though it seems to be in the same sort of boat as the original Z car, in that I see too many echoes of other cars in it. But that's just my opinion. Both it and the original Z certainly are good looking cars, regardless.
Motorpsycho
Intermediate Driver

I lusted after the original when it was new, but as I age, the new one, with reliability and modern conveniences and performance would win out.
Roxton
Pit Crew

I have owned a 72 240Z, 76 280Z and currently have a 83 280ZX 2+2. The new Z is a beautiful car that does everything well, but for me it's how a car makes me feel. And the early Z's and now my ZX make me feel young again. And that's a great feeling for a 71 year old.
GSM
Intermediate Driver

Well said Roxton! I own a 240Z and a NA Z32 and I love them both but for different reasons. Would I trade either of them for a new Z? No.
ROBBO99
Detailer

Almost bought a new z in 2013 but i didn't like the color choices back then
ScaryLarryPants
Intermediate Driver

New Z.

Problem Solved.

Gary_Bechtold
Specialist

As a Gen X'er I concur I prefer the 300ZX Turbo over the other generations. But I would gladly take a 240/260/280Z. The 350/370Z never really did it for me. The new Z has my interest.
ThePorscheMan
Detailer

Had a '72 240zed and loved it, urine yellow paint and all. I'd probably get a 300zedx today; given the choice. Drove one of those a while back and it had enough power to make it a bit tail-happy which I like... a lot!
SAG
Technician

OLD.
before everything is now the_
"same"
just different accents.
Rider79
Technician

Hardly.
260Z-1974
New Driver

I've had my 260Z (early model) since 1994. When I bought it for $2500 it was barely running (it had been terribly maintained) but was not rusted. After 3 years of occasional weekend work, I got it up and running well. It's been my sunny weekend cruiser ever since (with no issues). It still supports its original paint and has yet to have any body work done on it. Although it's not especially fast, with the original flat-top Hitachi carbs, it can still carve up corners and is a joy to drive.
MustangJim
Technician

As always, the new one is faster , safer, more reliablle , more comfortable, etc... But I would go for the 240Z. Because I liked them when they we're new, and I don't need a daily driver. For daily driving I would go with the new one. But... I'm a boomer.
74firebird
Pit Crew

my friend bought a 73 240 new brought it home, put a 327 corvette motor and 4 speed in it, a scarab kit. 10 years later we built a 400 small block for it and put a 300 zx diff in. it was quite the sleeper. 130 mph just coming up the on ramp to the freeway. he sold it in the early 90s for 3000.00
TG
Technician

Leaving money out of the equation, the original Z cars are attractive cars, and have always hovered on the fringes of my want list. What has kept them there are reports from owners that they are a little light on squirrels under the hood and are not the best handling cars. Tack on a 45-60K price tag... and nope
The newest Zs capture some of the lines of the originals, but they are watered down in all of the places you expect newer cars to water down the lines - no chrome, **bleep** cars
TG
Technician

I got about 2 and a half sentences replaced by **bleep** for some reason - pretty sure I used my used my company manners. Long story **bleep**, for 45K, I would go with new
TG
Technician

**bleep**
TG
Technician

apparently 5h0rt is being replaced by **bleep**
Sajeev
Community Manager

short

 

okay, if you were typing short and that happened, I will look into it. Please confirm @TG 

TG
Technician

confirmed

Sajeev
Community Manager

Thank you, and sorry again about the bleeps. We are working on a bleeping fix for this bleep, @TG

TG
Technician

the auto-moderator also appears to be altering content - my original post was 2 and a half sentences of witty prose

77GL
Detailer

I was going to say 240 or nothing but that new one is pretty sharp too.
Scohn
Pit Crew

I am # 12 on the waitlist for the new Z at my local dealer. I got tired of waiting and bought a 2019 370Z Nismo so I guess I cast my vote to almost new. I cross **bleep** in my life I wanted something modern.
Sajeev
Community Manager

Sorry about the bleeps, we are working on a bleeping fix for this bleep, @Scohn

ed
Advanced Driver

i had a 72 240 with 4-speed and AC. I can still remember the pull and especially the sound when winding it up through the gears. The fender rot took over and I sold it. Today, I would take a new one, assuming the test drive checked all the boxes.
salsa96
Intermediate Driver

I own an early 240Z. Have now had it for 26 years now. When restoring the car I decided to go restomod. I now enjoy the best of both worlds, performance, reliability and classic looks. That being said, I’m considering getting the new Z but I think I’ll wait it out until all the first ones are taken.
Pete27
Pit Crew

Driving my 70 240 is like going back in time. Simplistic manual controls, road noise, squeaky plastic interior trim panels, and a radio that you can kinda hear, all add up to an experience that I absolutely cherish every time I get to drive it. I’m sure the latest versions would knock my performance expectation socks off, but there’s just something about that rough and raw rattling ride that keeps me coming back.
Rider79
Technician

One of the earlier convertible versions, to be sure. I have no use for two-seaters that are not convertibles (or at least true targas). That said, the new one does look very good, should have the performance, and even has a stick available for those so-inclined.
Bpilati
New Driver

The reason I was given by young teens for the popularity of the Datsun 240Z, is its proliferation in Japanese video games where it seems to be one of the kings.