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Spied: Next-gen Mustang interior trades retro vents for more pixels

Spy photographers recently caught a fresh glimpse at the S550 Mustang's successor, camo-clad and looking distinctly unlike an electric lozenge on stilts. Exhaust pipes and engine bays, hooray! First, a quick recap: News broke earlier this year that the next-gen Mustang is expected to arrive in March of 2023, perhaps as a 2024 model.
https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/spied-fords-next-gen-mustang-interior-trades-retro-vents-for-more...
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pcchuck
Intermediate Driver

Let's hope that they come up with some decent colors... outside and in. Too much black interior for a convertible. The local Ford dealer is a buddy and I told him. "I'd love to buy a Mustang convertible from you, but the colors are so crummy''... He agreed...
bblhed
Instructor

He agreed that he wants to sell you a car, don't kid yourself.
pcchuck
Intermediate Driver

Sure.. But like I said he is a buddy. I am on my second new Taurus Limited AWD from him. Also, I have bought 2 convertibles (neither was a Ford product) off the internet and had them shipped to his dealership. They receive them and clean 'em up for delivery to me... even get the license plates. I pay for this and it's worth it. They service my other non Ford vehicles as well. 'Still haven't bought the Mustang, but maybe....
miata93
Instructor

Dealers stock their inventory with "safe" colors which are the least likely to be rejected by buyers. That is why there are so many boring white, black, silver and dark red vehicles on the road today.
pragmatic
Pit Crew

Lets hope that one change that comes from the supply shortages is a movement to make it easier and cheaper to order cars rather than taking delivery from stock. This would help people get the color and options THEY want not those that the company and the dealer THINK they want.
mbr2000
Advanced Driver

Don't worry. You'll have your choice of white, two blacks, silver, and two grays! Maybe red and blue as $600 options. My 2016 GT paint color is "Guard" (dark green), which I really like.
chargeral
Pit Crew

Way too much in electronics in that car. The auto industry has a love affair with their electronic gages and screens along with too much dependence on making everything in the car electric. My experience with cars like that is all that junk tends to die much quicker then the car itself. I still much prefer a car with far fewer electric toys in them.
majorbob
Intermediate Driver

Right you are friend. Then to add insult to injury, they limit the modules for replacement repairs to about 60 months so you can’t get parts and. Can’t repair the vehicle.
Works well for them. Increases sales volume.
uweschmidt
Instructor

Lobby for mandatory electronic Parts availebility for a specific long time by Law that will slow the nonsense of all thes electronic Gadgets down I bet right now there is some Clown in the industry trying to figure out a Way to put electronics into the Tires and have themdo some Magic Thing for Your driving Experience and yes some electronics really help us BUT ONLY IF THEY WORK
BossGreg
Detailer

I don't like these cars wearing clothes. Please show some naked ones. Hopefully they have absolutely no resemblance to the four door "mustang" atrocity. And as already mentioned some interesting colors inside and out are needed.
dooscoop32
Detailer

This looks like the same old same old.
Numberscruncher
Detailer

So a SUV frame. Yay! Not. Always wanted a low slung Explorer.
Tim
Technician

Platforms are not built like that anymore. It's a modular chassis. Think of it as a platform that happened to already have an SUV made from it.
Rider79
Technician

Unfortunately, the tests I have read of the current Explorer suggest that the new RWD platform has not made a significant improvement in the Explorer's ride or handling, as vs. the previous FWD platform. Perhaps they will learn from that, and improve the platform for the new Mustang.
JGeske
Instructor

In fairness, par for the course for Ford and others. The last gen of Explorer was the same subframe as a Taurus and Flex. That said, sharing some subframe and engine components does not mean it will be the same animal (drive a Flex, then get in an Explorer, what a different driving experience).

As an example from another manufacturer: Honda uses shared subframes and drivetrain components on the Odyssey, Passport, Pilot, and Ridgeline (and of course their Acura counterparts). That said, drive all 4 and they are completely different vehicles. The Passport and Ridgeline particularly, as they have larger and stiffer suspension components than the other 2 (and the Ridgeline has a 14 inch longer wheelbase than the Pilot/Odyssey, stiffening components at the bed junction, and 2 frame reinforcement rails welded under it). Yes one could say that they "share a frame" but they are again different animals.

This is not to say that an "Explorer based" Mustang might not suck, it very well may be as bad as you expect, but sharing a subframe does not dictate that it must suck and in fact may make it better than the prior gen. We won't know till they hit the road. I am willing to give it a fair shake and see how it is, despite not being a Ford buyer, not a Mustang's target audience, and thinking all Mustangs after the 1st gen are worthless.
pcchuck
Intermediate Driver

Expanding / expounding on my earlier point... Part of the reason that the original Mustang was such a success is doubtless the color choices including Palomino interior along with several exterior paints in actual colors, not derivatives of grey. It used to be fun to spec out a new car... Now there are 2 interiors.. the one you don't like and the one you don't want.

I am betting that today the interior stylists at Ford are all Gen. Zers or Millennials who grew up on computers and never went outside to see the real colors of Nature. They wear all black clothes and dye their hair black. Betcha ! .

If the VP of styling is reading, give some thought to this: We customers are sick of grey, red, silver, and childish shades of ''primary'' colors. Visit a paint store and look at all the colors... You'll sell more cars... (assuming that is the idea... )
Tim
Technician

I agree with you that I'd like to see a different set of colors on the Mustang. When shopping for a Mustang, it came down to picking from the short list of colors after eliminating the colors that were non-starters. It was more a matter of picking the best-of-the-rest rather than having really good options. Ford tends to regularly rotate colors through the product lines, even when current colors are a really good fit, so I expect a few new colors among the staples.

As far as interiors go, the Mustang doesn't sell in enough colors to offer completely distinct interior options, but at least there are five seat trim colors available, with a tan and a grey option available in addition to the standard black and two special trims. Where the dash and door finishes are not an all-black love affair but include many accent pieces, I think Ford has done about all we can expect with interior color options for a car with its sales figures. Heck, that Ford hasn't killed it off entirely is a reason to give thanks--Ford killed off other models that sold in higher numbers.
SS396
Intermediate Driver

Nailed it!! " Now there are 2 interiors.. the one you don't like and the one you don't want."
GlockandRoll
Intermediate Driver

I wish like hell they would put a the bigger V6 ecoboost in it and offer one in AWD, or maybe al electric power to the front wheels even?
Tim
Technician

I don't think there will be an electric-V6 pairing, but you can expect electric to be added. Don't beg too much for the V6, as it may end up killing off the V8.
ed
Advanced Driver

I like 'Steering Assist fault - Service Required' in the instrument photo. I guess not much has changed after all.

 

And 'suggesting a single pane integrating multiple displays'.  Which will lead to multiple pains.

Tinkerah
Engineer

I was going to add some snarky comment about the fault message but we should understand it's a very early version going through shakeout and they're trying to do it secretly.
uweschmidt
Instructor

I like " Steering assist Fault " I am Glad though they don"t have that in Airplanes!
bblhed
Instructor

What happens if that turns out to be a T-Bird that was being passed off as a Mustang?
OldFordMan
Advanced Driver

NOPE! I'll keep my SN95.
MustangJim
Technician

Agree! Keeping my s197 as long as I can drive it.
diecuts
Pit Crew

The coupe version of the new Mustang is being road-tested frequently and is in the building next door. It is definitely a Mustang, and a much sleeker version. The sequential tail lights are incredible. They don't really disguise it that much, as in this industrial park, we are used to seeing concept vehicles all the time, doing all kinds of tests, i.e. sound, road noise etc. I happen to be an OEM supplier, so respect their privacy, don't want to spook my customers....:}
J3
Pit Crew

Agree on too much electronics. If you want to see a cool new vehicle that is coming out next year going back retro simplicity look at the Ineos from Britain. The richest man in Britain has decided cars are getting to complicated and is building a new car company with a model of that reminds one of the old Landrovers.
Craglee
New Driver

Looks like gen4 to me, 94 - 04. Starting to look like a lady's car again like Ken Miles said at the beginning. Lol. That's why I hug both my mid-90s Impala SS' and 2010 Challenger before I go to bed every night.
Balocco
Intermediate Driver

I see a future where all those electronics are dead and a Sun Super Tach is mounted to the dash.
Tinkerah
Engineer

I still have two cars in the stable with carburetors and breaker points. They'll be the only things on the road in this town after the EMP. OK - and maybe some older lawn tractors.
cslandry
Intermediate Driver

. . . and I have two cars with magnetos!
Rider79
Technician

And I have a Lawn-Boy two-stroke with a magneto, too.
Rider79
Technician

And my A-C WD! Just what I want to drive to the store on (not in), of course.
Gary_Bechtold
Specialist

Did they ever fix the refrigerant leak from the evaporator issue in the S550?

I see a touchscreen for accessing certain functions that are currently available with buttons on the S550 models. That is an unfortunate setback.

I wonder if this car will continue to grow in size with the explorer bones on it. I don't expect it to lose weight but I hope I am wrong.
DonA427
Pit Crew

Good to anticipate Ford's return to keeping the true Mustang image alive. I've had a '65 Mustang, a 64.5 Mustang (short time) a K-Code 66 Fastback, a 390 1967 GT Mustang, and still have my 1968 Cobra Jet GT Mustang - - all Mustangs in their truest forms. That electric station wagon pretending to be a Mustang which Ford was selling was quite a disappointment, so it is encouraging to think Ford is back on track with the next Mustang.
majorbob
Intermediate Driver

Anything they do with a internal combustion engine will be better than that ridiculous E-mustang or whatever they called it.
Ajakeski
Detailer

I knew it was a Mustang the moment I saw the puddle of oil under it.
miata93
Instructor

What I would like to see in future Mustangs:
Aluminum technology as used in the F150 to lighten the car
AWD
Optional V6 EcoBoost
A plug in hybrid version makes more sense to me than pure electric.
pragmatic
Pit Crew

All of this. Also now that they broke the dam offering an electric SUV make both 2 and 4 door models. Take on BMW. Camaro is going away they will need to broaden the market if the platform is to survive. Doing this while not moving too far and alienating the faithful will be tricky.
ctclark99
Pit Crew

from what I've seen; are we supposed to drive this thing or just play with the buttons and look at the pictures?
Buzz
Detailer

I do not know how Ford successfully mated a suppository with a catfish, but the Mustang proves they have somehow accomplished the impossible.

Bravo, Ford. Bravo.
Stixx
Detailer

THEY WILL HELP SELL THE CRAP OUT OF THE BRAND. AT LEAST HALF THE STANGS OVER THEYEARS WERE COUPES DUE TO LACK OF ROOM IN THE FASTBACKS.

I'LL KEEP MY BULLITT THOUGH.
jaysalserVW
Advanced Driver

Ho-hum...just another large piece of metal housing lots of expensive electronics which are to be managed by some dealership which charges lots to oblige owners of such vehicles. Could we get back to Vintage Vehicles?
Snailish
Engineer

It's an automotive writer fallacy that a "7 year old platform is old bones". This is the kool-aid the companies want us all to drink.

Meanwhile GM trucks basically are running on the 73 chassis (new Dodges are using the previous GM-gen coil-over style chassis...).

The average consumer would not be able to tell you the difference between a 1980 unibody design built to current specs (for insulation materials, electronic gadgets, etc.) and a "modern" platform.

Platforms get changed to obsolete parts, and at times due to not meeting a crash test or other regulation, and to fuel the sell via the automotive media.
GLaing
Intermediate Driver

I hope they did not engineer out all the inexplicable squeaks and rattles found in the Mustang that make the car so endearing. It just wouldn’t be the same.
mbr2000
Advanced Driver

My 2016 GT still has zero rattles, creaks, and wind leaks. I think Ford took a giant step forward beginning with the S550 generation. And reliability has been first rate.
espo70
Advanced Driver

Actually they did away with a lot of that during the later S197 years. My 2010 GT is as tight as a drum 12 years on.

SJ
Technician

Nice to see Mustang back on top of the pony car sales, but how long can the Camaro hang on. Challenger is still breathing down the Mustang's neck though, like the Camaro did much of the time in the past(and surpassing sometimes). I like that their are new Mustangs sold in other countries all over the world.