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Review: 2022 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD

Just last week it was announced that Albert Biermann, chassis engineer extraordinaire and former inhabitant of the top job at BMW M, will soon retire from Hyundai Motor Group. In the last chapter of his career, Biermann's sole mission has been to lend an air of performance credibility to the Kia and Hyundai brands, while setting a high bar for excellence for the fresh-faced Genesis luxury marque.
https://www.hagerty.com/media/new-car-reviews/review-2022-kia-stinger-gt2-awd/
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hyperv6
Racer

With poor sedan sales this one will come and go.

Ranger240
Intermediate Driver

Hagerty did KIA a favor typing up this review. The core audience of its readers don't very much care about sleek, modern, awd, automatic 300-whatever HP sedans.

And a 55k (HOLY SMOKES) this is no doubt a good car, but also a depreciation dirt missile. Buy pre-owned and get a great AWD automagic daily driver. Finance this new at the dealership and get hosed.

Financing 5 more grand to get a 4 series four door (fake)coupe seems like a smarter move when you go to resell it, hopefully before it's out of warranty.

Moral of the story is, this article was much ado about nothing, likewise with my comments.

Apologies all around, and Hagerty, PLEASE STICK TO THE CLASSICS.

Jim_G
New Driver

I have checked out the Stinger and Telluride. In both cases, the cheap interior was a deal breaker.
MATTMERICA
Technician

Thank you for sharing that. I agree with you.
MATTMERICA
Technician

This is what annoys me about these articles: "sold decently" - compared to what?!? Three months ago this vehicle was on the block to be killed off in Q2-2022 - why? Poor sales lol
Do the readers a favor - HOW MANY KIA STINGERS HAVE THEY SOLD? The answer is in north america around 13,000 a year. That includes canada. So kia sells about 615,000 autos in north america each of the past two years, this car is 2% of their sales, but seems smaller, I never see these cars on the road. Maybe once a month.
Do the readers another favor, when you are not too busy trying to slam the legit sport brands of the world, please make note that until a vehicle has a minimum of 400 hp OR is a turbo 911, quad exhaust pipes look stupid. They just do. On this car they are a joke. Also, it seems to me that if you are comparing this car to a honda accord sport, the only difference is the engine; the tech in the honda literally destroys the kia in every meaningful category. So while the knee pads are on for this car, I will congratulate kia on actually making CARS. Apparently when the US brands literally ceded the car market to the asian automakers, at least somebody is till making CARS.
Eric
Hagerty Employee

You're right on the point of sales numbers --- "decently" considers what this car's sales targets were, and according to Kia that volume is pretty much what was forecast. US sales are about 14,000 per year as you note, with another 1700 per year or so in Canada. It consistently sold better than the G70, and they launched a couple years apart. Compared to another premium sedan like the Acura TLX which moved roughly 30,000 examples per year, it sold much worse. Nobody in Seoul thought this was going to outsell the 3 Series, as it was more about brand building, at least in the U.S. As to the reference to the Accord 2.0T, the Honda is about 600 pounds lighter and that does help it handle just about as well, but it's a lot slower. Their interiors I'd say are comparable, but the Accord's infotainment system is a bit cheap compared to what you get in the Stinger. Accord is the better car for the money, overall.

TingeofGinge
Intermediate Driver

And here lies the biggest issue with the Stinger: Kia had no idea where to peg it to the market. The build cost probably necessitated the high price tag, thus putting it in the same general league as the full-on "premium" brands, but the interior and exterior appointments and its brand heritage land it in Honda territory. So you've got a weird car that costs too much and doesn't feel like it knows where it should be. Do buyers cross-shop with Audi or Honda? Not a great scenario.
MustangJim
Instructor

Not everyone has the money for a 911 with quad pipes....but they like them. Some people are attracted to this car because there is not one in every other parking space. It's really not a bad car at all. I think a bit over priced but heck, the average car is up to 40k. The 2% of Kia buyers that buy this car are happy and have something different. I thank haggertty for bringing us these reviews.
TingeofGinge
Intermediate Driver

Drove a GT 1 when they first hit the lots. Local dealer had half a dozen. 8 months later, they still had half a dozen. Even with AWD in the great PNW. Loved the car - couldn't justify the price, given that CPO BMWs and Audis were cheaper. So therein lies the rub: trying to find buyers who 1) have the money, 2) don't mind spending the money on something perceived as "less than", 3) want a driver-oriented sporting car. Kia needed people who were eager to be early-adopters to make this car viable and I'm guessing they didn't find them in the US. Car drove great, but all of its baggage weighs it down. Which is kind of sad. With as much as the car culture in this country seems to want cars like the Stinger, we don't seem to want them enough.
Gary_Bechtold
Specialist

The AWD version is quite dull compared to the RWD version but if you live in the snowbelt it's worth a look. The stability control on these cars is annoying. It comes back on even after you turn it off. Dynamically this is a car with potential that will never see it fulfilled because the wrong people won't make it better. They introduced this car and have pretty much sat on it. It sells poorly so they have little incentive to do anything. When it first came out it was cheaper for me to go and get a Lexus IS 350 F-Sport which handles way better. Sure it was missing 54hp but the Lexus was the better car and surprisingly cheaper back in 2018. As others have said paying $50k+ for a Kia is a bad financial decision as they drop off a cliff in value. Should make a decent used car.

The new logo sucks, it looks like a mess to me. It doesn't look like the word KIA, it looks more like "KN". I have heard some people be confused by what it said.
mfp4073
Advanced Driver

I agree. Almost bought one but settled for the K5 GT line. Great car but the logo says KN. I thought they sold filters and the like. No one I have talked to yet has liked the new logo except for the 20 yr old salesman at the dealership and He will tell me anything I want to here.

TheModelCitizen
Intermediate Driver

We have a 2019 Santa Fe XL. In viewing the photos of the Stinger, I see two things that it has in common with our Santa Fe trhat irk me. First, a plethora of electronic switches right by the cup holders, conveniently located to short circuit when a beverage is spilled. Second, a plethora of switches for features that, to my mind, would be better relegated to am option screen. Perhaps more so in the Santa Fe than in the Stinger, it seems like a button for all the safety features is overkill as the average user (including myself) would most likely want to turn them on and leave them on. Instead, the switches are positioned for accidental de-activation.

In general, it seems to me that these switches are labelled with rather cryptic pictures. Since the Santa Fe is primarily my wife's vehicle (and I did not read the 200 page manual) I often find myself at a loss to tell her what "this one does" off the top of my head.

To be clear, my comments are directed at almost all new cars I see these days. Automakers have added a lot of features - useful features - but the placement for the control of these features seems poorly thought out.

And I still don't understand why elecgtronic parking brakes are such a great improvement.

Flashman
Technician

What a good idea, reviewing this and its G70 brother so close together. Although the article does a good job of differentiating them, it might have been better it the same writer had done the reviews. Worthwhile reading nonetheless.