So you are charging your EV using fossil fuel!
A good part of the expense of gas is the tax you pay that is not yet implemented on EVs.
Let's do a fair comparison of efficiency not this virtual MPG B.S.
We will compare a Tesla model 3 to a Honda Civic GX which is a CNG vehicle. This way we are comparing apples to apples.
A Tesla model 3 gets about 263 miles on a full charge it takes 50 KwH to charge fully. 1 KwH takes about 1000 cubic feet of natural gas to generate. To go 263 miles it takes 50000 cubic feet of NG which equates to 190 cubic feet of NG to go one mile!
Let's compare the Honda. One tank of the Honda has a range of roughly 250 miles. The tank size is 7.5 gallons of CNG. One gallon of CNG is 126.67 cubic feet of NG. That gives you 950 Cubic feet of NG per tank full. This comes up to 3.8 Cubic feet of NG per mile.
This makes the Honda 50 times more fuel efficient than the Tesla.
This does not account for power losses in the grid delivering the electricity to your house to charge the Tesla.
I know you are going to say, "I will only use green energy".
There is no such animal. I used to work in a factory that made solar panels. They are by no stretch of the imagination green. First it takes a solar panel approximately 6 years to create the electricity it took to manufacture it. Don't even get me started on all of the highly toxic chemicals and gasses that go in to them. Then when they are used up they end up in a landfill causing more pollution.
If you believe that EVs are environmentally friendly and want to drive one. Have at it. I just don't want to have to subsidize them. Which includes EVs paying their share of taxes that are imposed on ICE vehicles.
In most of the USA, local, State & Federal governments only REGULATE power companies, and admitedly poorly at that. The companies themselves are largely PRIVATE, (I’d guess that you’re a free-trade capitalist, right?)
If EV’s are going to be more and more common, like heatwaves and destructive storms & tornados are; then the power companies NEED to expand and strengthen the grids. Even Texas learned that recently.
BTW — You say “These reserves have been untapped for centuries and they've been a producer of carbon and other gasses centuries more.” How does untapped crude oil produce carbon & gasses?
Did you know that oil comes from prehistoric decayed plant matter, whose stored energy came from the Sun?
All of our foods get their caloric energy from the Sun, directly or indirectly. Guess what… YOU’RE solar-powered.
Sorry from where I sit I see most of this unfounded. Hybrids will be faced with continued increased cost and regulations. Even Off Cycle EPA credits will be limited.
Much of the cost of an EV is in the Battery. These cost will decrease as they are down from $1100 kWh to just over $100 kWh and by 2025 is to be at $38 kWh with the present tech not discounting more break throughs.
The transfer to EV is going to be much like horse to IC. It was not over night nor always cheap. Then the model T happened and then America was driving not riding.
1. taxes are pending with license. This may be coming as car even efficient on gas are paying less gas tax.
2. As prices drop no need for the government money.
3. Employers should not be charging cars. Do it at home.
4. With the Tesla issues I have seen I would not buy one in the first place. They are no where as high quality or sorted as their followers want you to believe.
5. They made a big deal out of 1 of 5 go back to ICE. That means 4 of 5 remain. I find this number better than it should be based on the cars now available. When better cars arrive this will remain or improve.
EV cars will be cheaper to build, they will take smaller plants with less staffs. They will contain less parts and not face major EPA testing and CARB cost. This will decrease their cost to make them competitive with ICE Hybrids that still face major EPA testing and regulations.
Yes some EV models will employ transmissions. This will permit the, to increase range and performance. It also will let them use smaller cheaper batteries to lower cost and not hurt performance.
Yes there is much to work out but look back 30 years and see how far we have already come.
It is what it is. This is coming and there are many variables. But this is coming.
What puzzles me is will people treat EV cars as they age like an old cell phone? Will they show no interest in used old tech and only want the new cars? This could be critical.
As for trashed cars the metals used in the batteries and car will make salvage a big industry. Many are already gearing up.
Look the first home computers were $10k plus today for $800 you have a phone a million plus times capable that can do so many things than just a call in your pockets. That is in just 30 years.
the first large plasma screens in NYC in 1999 were $8,000 when they appeared. They were a whopping 48”. Today you can get led Tabs for well under $1000 up to 70” plus in size.
My Lap top here has 1 TB for $2000 with the added Apple premium price. Not that long ago $4000 would get you a 16 gig.
Many electronics go down in price as they go. Others add or expand ability and content for the same price and still make billions doing so.
You may have paid $1200 for your flip phone in your pocket but you can go to Apple buy a 11 phone for $600. with 128 gig.
I am not a big EV fan to me they are appliances. But I do know my survival moving forward work wise and transportation wise will require me to be accepting.
You can come up with many hood reasons and or excuses but it is not going to change a thing. You lose electric in a hurricane you are not getting the fuel out of the ground anyways.
So, you’re saying that EVs will overtake Hybrids without heavy incentives?
Based on? Their performance, reliability, recharge time, weight, safety?
The only way that is possible is through heavy taxation upon gasoline and diesel fuels, combined with a major boost in power generation in a very short period of time. It simply isn’t going to roll out that way. If we had enough power there wouldn’t be threats of grid shut downs on very hot or very cold days.
Even with a new power plant every month, it would take over a decade to replace gasoline for the primary mover of motor vehicles.
Hybrids are the majority share for the next 40 years. They will have plug in capability and all-electric modes for zero emissions zones. Oh, that’s here now, in a variety of vehicles.
Hybrids make sense. EVs only in a very specific subset and controlled situations.
Electric cars or not California may be at risk for trouble no matter what.
Most other areas are already ok or will have updates by the time it is needed.
As for California they finally have accepted the fact they will need Natural Gas moving forward as wind and sun are not going to cut it.
I expect the Fed will have to step in and fix Cali once it becomes critical even with no EV.
Or they get hit with the next big one and the Fed has to fix it anyways.
Yes they crap in the streets but then again they did that in the 90’s too.
The bad part is those who screwed things up are now moving and screwing up other places. I have a computer programmer in Bozeman that said they are moving there and trying to tell them how to live.
Sadly when Cali crashes on their own or by nature we will get stuck with the bill.
They may not fix it but we will get stuck with the bill anyways.