IMO one of the most important vehicles ever built,loaded with ground breaking tech.Such a shame that for whatever reasons the program was shut down.That 125 plus mile range including driving on southern cal freeways and zipping around the Malibu hills the car was astounding.What always makes me wonder is why when the mileage became quite feasible was when the car was suddenly declared dead.Yup,I see string pullers at work no matter what anyone else officially says.Big money and huge stakes at play.
Cui Bono? The first thing you always address when investigating....
A true "car guy" would not be so closed minded. What difference does it make how the vehicle is propelled. I am not saying one is more superior then another, its a matter of taste. But to exclude electric vehicles because they do not make their power with a combustable fuel only shows ignorance. Any real car guy know that horsepower is not what propels a vehicle or wins races, it is torque. Electric motors provide immediate torque directly to the drive wheels without the need for a transmission, providing a hell of a ride that will almost always beat a comparable ICE vehicle.
The only real hurdle left for the electric vehicle is range. A fuel cell on board that keeps the battery charged could fix this problem until battery technology improves. But the reality is that future vehicles WILL be driven by electric motors. Take a look at the supercars that have come out over the last few years, almost all of them are hybrids, electric is not going away. In fact, has it ever really gone away? Trains have been using electric motors since steam engines went obsolete.
I really do not understand the hatred for electric vehicles, everyone I know that has actually driven or ridden in one, likes them. People that have not driven or ridden in one think they are toys or do not understand how advanced they have become.
Are we ready to replace all ICE vehicles with electric, no. Range, battery efficiency, charging infrastructure, charging speed are all obstacles, but only if you want an identical experience to driving an ICE vehicle.
There is a place and a need for them now. With gas prices being almost $1 more a gallon then they were a year ago, they are cheaper then ever to drive, even if you have to recharge them every 300 miles or so, and you beat almost anything on the road from one traffic light to another.
That day has already come. Super chargers add 200 miles or more of real world range in 20-30 minutes, which works out to your average rest area/ dinner stop.
coupled with the fact you can charge at home and start with a totally full battery you can easily drive for 4 hours at 70mph before having to stop. 9/10 times I’m itching to stop to have a leak before the car is even close to needing juice.
Take a Tesla out on Turo sometime and go for a drive- it’s a unique experience worth more than a 15 minute test drive.
What do you define as the amazing flexibility of ICE vehicles?
if I had to guess, it would boil down exclusively to range advantages. (But that’s a guess and is not meant to be snarky, I’m genuinely curious)
here are some of the real world flexibilities of EVs right now that I’ve personally experienced:
1. ability to leave my house with a full tank.
2, ability to run heat/ AC all night while car camping with minimal noise or fumes
3. being able to fuel my vehicle literally anywhere there is electricity
4. Getting 150 mpg equivalent cost wise when I’m willing to wait, and 60 mpg equivalent when I’m in a rush.
5. getting a “full tank” in the time it takes to eat a burger, without having to pump gas for 5 minutes (10 seconds to plug in and 25 minutes to do whatever I want)
6. Having a significant increase in cargo space due to the lack of an engine bay
7. instant acceleration
8. never having to touch the brake pedal
9. Sometimes charging is straight up 50% off or even free.
10. It handles like a sports car, sips “fuel” like a Prius, and drives itself... and cost less than a basic run of the mill pickup truck.
These are things you don’t come to appreciate until you incorporate an EV into your daily habits.
I hear what you are saying - but what do you do when you are traveling and staying overnight at a random hotel or relatives house without a charging station - and you don't want to run up their electric bill?
1) I mean the ability to have a single car that can handle all my around-town driving AND allow me to drive all day when I need to visit a friend, relative, take a vacation/weekend get-away or take a kid to/from campus.
2) In addition, several times a year I will pull a trailer or a wave runner - and I know that any sort of towing will dramatically impact EV range.
3) With an ICE vehicle I NEVER have to worry about where and when to refuel.
4) No worries that my range will change due to winter cold or the drain of running the A/C on hot summer days.
5) When I visit friends/family or stay at a hotel - I never have to worry about how my vehicle will be charged overnight so it's ready to go the next morning (I just gas up my ICE when needed on the road).
Bottom line, until the above issues are no longer a concern with EVs - I won't buy a pure EV - a hybrid maybe, but not an pure EV.
The breakthrough was the large format NiMh battery pack.Suddenly it had a fantastic battery.Then POOF! The car is dead,CARB kills the mandate and the battery winds up owned by an oil company and shelved,never seen again.
No ,nothing to see here.
Same as the airplane is all about the wing,the electric car is all about the battery.The NiMh battery is fantastic,ask anyone who uses eneloops how they feel about NiMh.
The story here isnt about the EV1 platform,its about the battery,follow that story.