This is why I have been saying the Ford Lightning will be old tech once this one arrived.
GM took the time to make this on a platform and it is stiffer than any truck out there. It will offer many things other trucks do not offer. It has over 400 mile range. The price for the high end with every crazy option may be $105K but the WT will start at $39K.
GM will offer all types of cab and bed options with models priced similar to the gas models.
These will not be for everyone but this is the right path and the one the market will follow. Ford already has announced they are working on a similar platform but it is two years out.
The sales of these trucks will also lower the prices of the EV models to come as they all share much the same parts.
Brandan this is not a race but a Marathon. Being first with a technical lacking products will only serve you a short time.
In this case Ford is about two years behind GM tech wise and to save face they had to rush the Lightning out while they are still 2 years away from a dedicated platform. By doing this first truck is good for PR for a short while but eats into the budget for the more advanced product that is coming.
GM has also had a history of rushing product out and then having issues. The 8-6-4 Cadillac and the early Buick Turbo cars were all rushed out and had issues. I was glad to see GM finally take the time to get things right on this new EV products and also wait to get the prices down.
I just saw the base Work truck can be ordered to tow 20,000. They also plan a full range of product prices along the ICE vehicles. These trucks will be decent selling product and will help pay off the investment and reduce prices even faster.
As for now the Lightning is a Black Berry and the GM truck is a Apple I phone 13 the most recent Samsung. What would you rather have?
The Lightning did its job jumping up stock prices a little when they really needed it. Now will it hold on.
Going forward it is not a matter of being first but a matter of being the best.
Will just see how many go for the Ford now that the Chevy is known. Ford just wanted to get out there before they looked foolish and late to the game. All they are pedaling is a converted truck when GM is selling a complete engineered package.
This is a night and day comparison here.
Hey that is what they said and to be honest with the added weights coming we will need to address this with bridges and roads as it is something no one is talking about yet. None of these BEV are light.
Tell that to GM not me. I only state what they said. As I stated above weight will need to be addressed in many areas and no one has been talking about that yet. People make false claims of the grid being an issue when many of our bridges are going to be the weak spot.
Contrary to your comment eke out 400 miles is not what is expected. It is expected to be in excess of 400 miles.
Also there is no doom or gloom about chargers as the numbers increase of EV models the number of charging stations will increase. Most in public will be of the high voltage nature since most will need faster charging times at these locations. Chargers will grow as the market grows.
Also the lower charging that is going on now is the fact most cars did not have ultra high rate of charging. Most new models are adopting this and that is becoming the new standard. Expect with technology the chargers will generally be upgraded and improved as we get better tech.
The 20K will have the larger battery. But the point is the WT should be very capable to handle anything we got now and still not for a crazy price as it once was.
I really don't see this as exciting on the new tech. Im just trying to keep up as my work depends on the automotive market and though I am a ICE fan I am already dealing with EV products and future products that will be supplied to them.
Some live in a cloud of denial often posting things on the web that just blatantly false. The lies are told so often that they become fact to some. The harsh reality is this change is coming and no election or political moves is going to stop it. MFG have fully committed and feel in the future 15-20 years they will be able to give the market fully what it needs to live with these models.
I plan to keep my gas cars as long as I can but when I do up grade I will purchase the best charger available. I even had my garage built to accept a charger when the time comes.
The closest charger to me just happens to be a Chevy dealer and it charges at the max rate so If I had this truck it would take 10 Min for 100 miles.
Note I don't live in a EV heavy area either.
You can match what Ford has for nearly the same price and get a much more advance truck vs the conversion Ford is pawning off as new tech. What they did could be reproduced with a kit from GM and Ford in a home garage.
Those with tech and money will take the time to get it right. Those with no money and need of higher stock prices will push thing early even if they are not fully developed.
Ford knew what Chevy had as it was not a secret. Imagine trying to show the lighting after the Chevy was shown. It is showning now how far Ford is behind. That is why last week Ford released how they are doing their own specific EV truck platform that is two years off.
They are being time. Do not get suckered in by the Marketing. Same not he Mach E. It is a nice car and all but just because it has a Mustang badge on it does not make it a Mustang.
GM learned that the hard way when they put Cutlass on everything and found it was the RWD car that was the reason it sold well not the name.
Ford has had to manage money well as they have not handled it well most times. Every time a Ford was in charge they ended up in trouble. Accept for Edsel he had the right idea but Henry over ruled him and sadly he passed too soon.
Ford is also still his hawk for their plants. They still have outstanding loans on their plants that they got before the others got the bail out. The only reason they did not get bailed out is they went broke before the banks did. Then they cried and got the energy loan.
Their stock prices have been horrible so they are trying to use the EV models to juice it up a bit pun intended. But they are still not out of the woods as they are still playing catch up and still need more money or a partner.
If not for the Ford family holdings Ford would have merged some place by now.
They are still suffering from the change to aluminum on their trucks. The cost of aluminum went up and has taken some of the profits there and it has hurt. Note their did not do the Ranger or the Maverick or Bronco in Aluminum. I wonder if the next 150 will keep the material.
All automakers have made a number of mistakes and they are masters of trying to cover in marketing and in finance.
Development cost today have left it to where few can go it alone anymore. VW, Toyota and GM are about the only ones. Everyone else is in need of dance partners to share cost. GM is working to try to sell or license their tech to others to use. Honda was the first taker. More are expected as deadlines and regulations loom in.
Well it is a matter of poor management at each company over decades.
Then it boils down to do you pay to keep them alive or do you let them fail and then John Q Public is stuck paying for it in unemployment and welfare.
The end results were mismanaged in the case of FCA. We really only saved Jeep and Ram for Fiat and now the French. At least we still have Toledo.
GM has rebounded well and did what they needed to do decades ago and take a step back to focus more on the core of the company. MFGs can offer a car for every slight segment anymore. Two divisions are generally all most need. While some jobs were lost it could have been much worse.
Ford is still working their way out. They really needed the Bronco and Maverick. Now will they have staying power past the intro. That will be important. I expect the Bronco will but the Maverick still will have to prove itself as FWD based truck start strong but fade as they buyers fade after 2 years.
Right now will be key to get the money to try to catch up their EV program. Many MFGs will be adding a number of EV products in the next 3 years and it will be important they have an answer to most. GM Has 30 by 2025 coming to market. VW, Honda Hyundai and Chrysler will also begin dropping a number of models. Those who get it right will be rewarded those who miss the mark may struggle as this is a total restart of the industry.
It is not he who rides the first wave but who gets the biggest wave and rides it to the shore.
This is about those who get it right as this is a total reset for everyone. Mistakes have already been made by some.
I am a proud Pontiac owner but I will be the first to day GM only needs two Divisions in America. Buick is only here due to China and I will admit GMC is a rare acceptation as they make a ton of money with the Denali line.
You can not run automakers on emotions.