Perfect analogy, as those “people” act as if the physical world has no limits.
”Men make plans, and God laughs”.
Be careful building ICE is not exactly like planting trees.
The production of anything has inherent side effects and they both have that here. But that is the price we pay so no one has to walk to work.
Even making shoes have environmental impact.
So both sided need to drop this excuse as to why one is better.
Jack the reality is this is an emotional issue for the enthusiast and it is bringing out the worst in both sides.
We enthusiast have faced a number of changes be it unleaded fuels that hurt our old engines, the move to lower compression force while that killed the 70’s performance. The entry of FWD cars and weak 4 cylinders killed off many great RWD cars. Early turbo models failed left and right.
How many time with the injection of technology like fuel injection and computers did we all cry it was going to kill performance when in the end it increased levels to where we never imagined.
What I am getting at EV is coming and going to be part of the market for a while as companies and people migrate over. So the parroted exaggerations are not going to change one D#%& thing.
We do need to become part of the migration and make sure the enthusiast is catered to in some way. This is where we were in numbers great enough to make sure we were felt by our purchases.
The performance industry now is working to find its place and we the enthusiast working with them can create a new place in the future. I have vendors that make pistons looking into new products to be part of both markets.
The cold harsh really and threat remains what will they do to our old cars? There are activist in the EPA that are willing to take our cars off the road. Think not cash for cars under Obama was just the start.
Like for guns they don’t go after the gun but the bullets. I expect fuels will become more costly and more damaging to our vintage cars. You can’t drive if you have no fuel. Synthetic fuel is one thing but cost again will be high.
The future is going to be EV for the most part and it will be a transition. But we should be more wary for our collector cars to preserve what we do have.
Just to note I once was a you will get my V8 when you pry it from my cold dead hands type. I hated FWD, still not a big fan. Despised 4 cylinder engines.
Yet I bought a 4 cylinder turbo FWD. I tuned it to 300 hp and other than the lack of traction just loved the car from the GM performance division.
It just shows we all need to keep an open mind. It is no different than being open to more than one brand of vehicle.
I am not relishing the coming change but I have learned to keep an open mind and look or make my place in the future.
My fear is if I am not a part of this I will be left out like we were in the 70’s.
Battery recycling is already a growing industry for these vehicles.
It will start at the plants for production and it will take place at the scrap yards when the battery is gone.
The materials are valuable and in demand enough to make it profitable.
They will be dealt with like a dead aluminum 4 cylinder that no one rebuilds.
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Well in my small beach town in the last 2 years they build additional 3 big gas stations.
Show you how early it is for electric cars.
Will take another 10-20 years or so.