“If you think the high-contrast graphics on the Judge were too much, or look at the garish, screaming hood bird on the Trans Am and clutch your pearls, perhaps a nice, understated Buick is more your speed—but to each their own.” I would say it’s possible to have good taste and enjoy a great performing car at the same time.
"I would say it’s possible to have good taste and enjoy a great performing car at the same time." I agree completely, but I believe that would be Buick GS or GSX from the late 60's or early 70's. This is garish and out of proportion. althoguh some of that might just be teh weird angles of the pictures?
“Dieters did admit that the audacious car has its detractors, who complain that it still has the basic silhouette of a Camaro.” The response to those folks is very simple: Every single Firebird ever produced had the basic silhouette of a Camaro. And shared the platform and glass, and many body parts, etc. Gads!
I appreciate what this is: a tribute to a legend. I think it's well-done. The T-Tops are classic and the underlying Camaro is a good foundation. While I like the back-end, I never liked the lower-cost duck-tail Camaro spoilers on the Trans Am, but I realize it is appropriate for the Bandit tribute. But the real problem for me is the front end. The Firebird was always heavily distinguished from the Camaro in the front end. The split grille is OK, but the rest is just Camaro.
Actually not a bad job at all, but the price is a bit over the top. I would prefer a 70's restomod version for a lot less. I've seen real nice original examples for 25-30k, and I think you could probably restomod them for 50-60k very nicely.
I'm ready for GM to move on from the retro thing. Lets see a new clean sheet, Modern design again for the Camaro and make it more livable to drive, not like sitting in a bathtub looking through gun slit windows.
I like the execution and find the car interesting....just not $170K worth. However I bet it is fun driving around and pretending you're Bert and making a lot of smoke and noise. Does it come with a CB radio? 10-4.
I think they do a good job, but for that kind of money I can buy three or four other cars I'd rather have. And while like most I think the original Bandits are awesome cars, I'm a fourth gen man. I could have bought a nice Smokey and the Bandit model for what I paid for my fourth gen WS6, but I much prefer mine. I guess I'm circling back around to the oft cited maxim here: to each his own.
There was not a ton of difference between the looks of Camaros and Firebirds in the old days, so if Pontiac had survived, there would still not be much difference. The new Camaro is ugly as sin, but this new faux t/a I like a bit more. The biggest sin of all is that you sit deep in these cars and can't hang your elbow out the window. Is it worth 180k ? Heck no.
I’m agreeing with a few people. For this kind of money, I’d buy a original and up the horsepower and suspension. This version looks ok, but not great. But, someone with more money than knowledge will probably buy it. Not knowing what you could build for that kind of money, and you always enjoy driving the real thing versus a knock off. Take care car cronies. JT
Being a Hugh fan of the first generation Camaro, all the proportions for this one are correct. Trans Am DNA for sure. T-tops 'awesome'. I would love to pull up to a foreign sports car and blow their doors off with this one. Modern American Muscle wins the day.
OMG that thing is butt ugly. Why even post such an aberration here. I hope you guys at Haggerty didn't insure this beast of ugliness for his crazy asking price. Because the only way someone will give him that much money for this thing would be if the insurer pays off after he "accidentally blows this thing up.
I like the car but not my cup of tea. Seems it invokes strong opinions. I wonder, if any of those folks who bashed it would refuse to take it for a spin. That's my criteria for hurling automotive insults. Hopefully they'll do an article on the "Smart Car" and I can hurl a few barbs.
There's a neighbor down the block from me who has a Mercedes triad mounted to the front of his Kia. This is just the $179,000 version of that. And it elicits the same reaction. I chuckle, shake my head, and say, "You're not fooling anybody, kid".
I would agree, as my first 'legal' car was a '64 GTO Tri-Power as a 16yr old. My Dad was a GM Guy, and had gone with Chevy's in '55 and '65, both Wagons to haul his growing family. The HP SBC's and Big Blocks available in my Used Car Price Range were exorbitant, so I became a Pontiac Guy, by default. The Olds in '77 wasn't totally terrible, and the SBC in '80 not the end of the World. The Turbo Poncho in the middle, well, let's just call it a misstep and move on...
The LT's and LS's of the 4th Gen? Let's call that, "Success"...
Y not ! I say. They brought back the others. Just gotta have the drk hair, sideburns, jeans, cowboy hat etc to drive it, eh? I don't mind it 21st Centurized (the others were) even if a ford guy. Y not do it w/the corvair MrChevy (3.5 seater vert w/flat 4, air cooled turbo)? We did the bronk !
Wow how can you bring the Camaro in the picture or story, you cannot insult the Camaro i own a 1986 Camaro believe me it turns heads my Iroc Z is a beautiful and powerful classic 5 speed manual 350 small block powered to 600 hp 5.7 LT1 Corvette motor I will eat up the Trans Am lol
Some people seem to like to put these cars down. I've seen these cars up close at Amelia Island and the workmanship is incredible. I see "Resto Mods" on the televised auctions that go for the amount being asked for this car and some would not blink an eye at what they bring. They're not for everyone, but I happen to like them. I just get bored with the tiresome "It's just a Camaro" rhetoric.
Smart guy, now I see why he made this Frankenstein:"He’s selling his car in part to finance the restoration of several second-gen Trans Ams that were damaged when Trans Am Specialties of Florida suffered from a devastating fire...." I got to drive a 455 SD Trans Am, what a hoot!
I have a hard time with this car. It's a Camaro. Naming it a Trans Am doesn't make it a Pontiac Trans Am. Pontiac and it's cars are regrettably dead. It's a body kit on a Camaro. Arguably buying a ZL-1 Camaro is a smarter decision if you want this platform in supercharged guise. I love the 70's Firebird/Trans Am's but $170k+ for a body kit and some mods, I just can't...
Let's forget about the price fora moment. While I appreciate the work done here to bring the TA back (and love the t-tops!), the fundamental issue for me is not the F-body brand sharing, it's the cross-generational choice. The most iconic generation of the Firebird is the 2nd, which is clearly what the designers are gunning for. But, they chose a car based on the 1st gen F-body. So the end is a mish-mosh of styling cues that aren't really cohesive. It looks too much 1st gen Camaro. An easier and more logical choice would have been to design a first gen TA from the Camaro. But while that model is iconic as well, its not nearly as so.
Keep in mind, this is coming from a huge F-body fan. I cut my car loving teeth on 2nd and 3rd gen Firebirds. To some, this might be the rebirth of a legend. To me, its just a sad reminder of bad decisions made by GM.