The automotive industry is brutal. Dollar signs drive design decisions every day, and if a product doesn’t continue to satisfy bean counters and board executives, it’s tossed aside regardless of the cult that might follow the nameplate to its grave.
Today we both celebrate and mourn the loss of several models that were axed before they could be polished or refined to the full extent. Read the full article on Hagerty.com:
Not a Chrysler fan particularly, but the Dodge Magnum was just cool looking! Mitsubishi 3000GT; I worked in a Mitsubishi dealer parts department....................Uh..................NO...complexity for the sake of complexity....other than that...........
The asstek was the ugliest car
Ever made. GM employees, in some
Cases were forced to buy. So ugly
Many have next to zero miles on
Their maladjusted marque. So
Ugly they kept them hidden in
Garages with the doors locked
Shut. Like the crazy aunt one
Would keep in the basement.
Pontiac hated the car buying
Public at this time. Pontiac's
Predetermined suicide also
Eternal rests with the :06-09
G 6. G6 retractable hardtop
Drop top. I bought this POS for
30000$. The top went down once.
On the electronics that made the
Entire car run. GM owned patents
On repair parts. Would not make
Parts and would not sell patents.
GM bankrupted Karmann which
Made the top as well. I called 12
Dealers. Not one would touch this
Topless whore of a car. This
Top was also used on the 80000$
Cad of that time period. One went
Nuts on a car serviced at a local
Dealer. Destroyed the Cad.
The new Lamborghini SUV resembles the Aztec. Stretch the Aztec and there it is. The GM b body should of stood around the Impala SS was a great car a would of been better.
I went to the dealership with cash ready to buy a 2006 Magnum, right after they came out. I still owned a 1979 Magnum (completely different vehicle) and thought it would be cool to have both, plus I love wagons! But when I opened the rear and saw the cargo space I walked away. It did not have a "cargo area" I could use for hauling stuff, it had a trunk, about 14 inches deep and three feet square. It was nothing but a stretched sedan - I think they call them "Shooting Brakes," now.
Also, I owned a Stealth R/T Turbo and regret ever selling that monster! I'd buy a newer one in a minute. Actually maybe I should check the classifieds for a Hennesey modified version!
RE the "ugly" Aztec,
Has anyone seen a Nissan Murano convertible? That thing makes an Aztec look beautiful, by comparison. Actually even the non-convertible was butt-ugly.
For Europen markets Chrysler marketed the 300C Touring, derived from the Dodge Magnum. I owned one with the Mercedes 3.0 litre V6 Diesel. In spite of its size it was well suited to european roads - and a great drive. 40mpg, sub 8 seconds 0-60 and 140mph without breakinfg a sweat. I miss it ( too big for my wife)
The Aztec was ugly and stupid. No surprise there.
The Phantom was a VW that should have been badged as an Audi.
The Mitsubishi 3000GT and Dodge Stealth was wonderful. Back in the day I wanted one.
The Dodge Magnum, there aren't enough good words in the English Language to describe it properly. I see this as a modern day, and better Chevy Nomad. These when found need to be put away, then in 20 or 30 years brought out to stun the collectors market and car shows everywhere.
The Aztec sucked so hard people thought it was a rogue weather system. Actually watched one almost tip over going around a tight corner too fast. Too tall, too skinny and just butt ugly. The guy that designed it should have been put against a wall and... well, y'know. I really used to like Pontiac until the penny pinchers put it into the ground.
Alas, Aztek. With a better front end, it might have challenged the equally funky Honda Element. That car had no tent, to my knowledge. Unlike the Aztek, it has a cult following. Try to snag a used one and you will see how fast they sell.
Honda, bring back the Element, with a tent!
I had a 2005 Magnum R/T as a company car when they first came out. I loved it. Reasonably quick, handled well for a car of that size and it was very comfortable on trips. I changed companies while I had it and hated to give it up. My successor was not a car guy and did not appreciate it for what it was. On one road trip, I carried two large rolls of carpet in it. Very practical. I am still a station wagon guy and now have an Audi Allroad.
The Dodge magnum has a big following in my area. And the prices show it. As far as the Aztec is concerned, I remember my dentist getting one brand new when they first came out. He was so proud of it. I could never figure out what he saw in it. I thought maybe it was because he had to look into peoples mouths all day long and it affected his judgement to some degree.
VW: nobody wanted to spend that much money on a car with VW's track record of high maintenance and poor reliability . Mitsubishi GT3000 - every time you got into a relatively minor accident involving the front end it wiped out one of the intercoolers. But Mitsubishi's main problem has always been their lack of dealerships.
I own an auto repair and restoration shop, and have multiple cars of my own. I will never part with my 07 Magnum SRT8 in black. Factory chopped, hot rodded, tinted, slammed, and graciously optioned . I'm reminded often how sad it is that it was canceled before the hellcat generation.
The Phaeton story was sad, but i cannot understand why the VW people did not take advantage of the LEXUS story. Imagine if the lexus carried the toyota logo on the cars, would anybody like to spend the money on a longer version of Camry, What killed Phaeton was the same problem. Like Lexus, they should have created a different logo, separate dealer ships and marketing. They could have put the VW in the 'O' in PhaetOn, I would still like to own a 10 cylinder diesel Phaeton, if they replaced the Diesel Particulate Filter free every time. I have a Benz GL320CDI, it cost $3000 to replace the DPF at 150,000 miles.
If Dodge had put the Magnum Wagon out as a Two door Hatchback with a luggage rack on top, they would have outsold the Chevy Nomad by miles! Dodge will go the way of Plymouth if they don't get with the program soon!
We had a 2007 Magnum SXT. If it had a Hemi I think I'd still have it. We really enjoyed that car. Drove it from coast to coast a couple times at least. Comfortable, practical and a bad boy look. One of the few cars I miss not having any more. I still check the used cars once in a while in case a clean Hemi or SRT shows up.
I knew a dentist who owned a VW Phaeton and drove it because he wanted a luxury sedan without giving his patients the appearance that he was above them. Driving a Volkswagen made him one of us. I think that may have been the market Volkswagen was aiming for or perhaps trying to create.
I miss seeing Magnums (kinda rare around here), and while I probably wouldn't go for a 700+ HP model it really would be an interesting car. The Aztec? C'mon...no level of tech, performance or accessories could make up for those lines. It put the "Ug" in ugly. So what are the new ideas coming out of the auto makers? Hey, let's build a 4 door electric sedan (good idea) that we'll call... a Mustang? I think the values of my '67 and '69 just went down.
C'mon Haggerty!!!! The Mercury Marauder from 2003-2004 is mandatory for this list. Recommending an Aztec is a complete joke. Past the Aztecs terrible build quality, el cheapo plastics and stupid design its a reflection of everything wrong with GM, and continues to be wrong with GM. Haggerty, if you are going to pass yourself off as experts at least have someone who truly has in depth knowledge on what if you bought you could honestly invest in safely, and not go bankrupt over repair bills like in the VW. One more thing: When I worked at GM the Aztec was such a dismal failure they forced employees with company car benefits to drive Aztecs, the thinking was that if people saw them on the road it might sell.
The car I was waiting for that never came was the final 3rd hoping that a ragtop was in it's future as the lines made the possibility a potential looker. I had 2 of the previous 2nd generation Rx7 convertibles loving every driving mile of them, but I held off on buying a 3rd gen . Unfortunately it never came and I headed to a BMW M roadster. Nice car, but it's not a rotary...
Umm, if the Magnum only lasted through 2008, it has nothing to do with FCA, i.e. it ceased to exist prior the creation of the FCA name/entity; it was only ever produced by DaimlerChrylser and then by an independent Chrysler, before they were acquired by Fiat. (Does no one proofread these things before they get published?)
I currently own a 05 Magnum RT, it is one of the most fun daily drivers I'v ever owned. I fully believe it will be a very collectible car someday in the future. If it was still being produced I'd buy a demon powered Magnum in a heart beat.
Mitsubishi quality, and parts pricing at the time were horrid. I had two Mitsubishi products, and they were cheap used for good reason. Rust in Peace.
The first Hyundais in the US were Mitsubishi clones, and look where they went with devotion to quality control.
I would add the VW Corrado and the 2nd generation CRX Si to this short list.
Agree on the statement that VW was daring a lot on the Pheton. Thé Artheon might unfortunately live the same story.
The biggest problems the Aztek had were 1) it was a fastback, which precluded it having a third row of seating, unlike its sister ship, the Buick Rendevous; and 2) that it was butt UGLY, also unlike the Buick. Simply put, styling sells, always has. The Aztek was so ugly that as soon as it hit the dealers' lots, the company announced a second year "freshening", almost unheard of in the industry, and a huge red flag that screamed "we're in deep in trouble" to everyone.
My wife and I currently own a 2006 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD with the 5.7 L Hemi. We bought this car brand new, and still own it all these years later at 169K miles. We've maintained this car as new all these years and it has always had a spot in the garage. Best car we've ever owned, and we've had many. Will not let it go. It now resides with our 1971 Dodge Superbee, 71 Plymouth Scamp, 1963 Polara 500 convertible and our 2015 Shaker Challenger. Of all these, the Magnum is the greatest street racer. Sleeper is the word for this car until you unleash the 340 horses to all 4 wheels. No wheel spin and no anti-spin system cutting out the engine power. This car HAULS butt, and 2x4s when needed. It has surprised many Mustangs, Camaros and yes, Challengers with way more horsepower. The thumbs up from the guys who get it at the next light, and the sour puss looks of those who don't are both great. On it's way to being a collectible? Maybe? The wife now drives a new Durango, so this Magnum has become part of the collection. Only time will tell.
I worked at a Pontiac dealership in Colorado at the end of Aztek production We sold lots of the Aztek's brother, the Buick Rendezvous. We sold every used AWD Aztek we could get our hands on. Very popular with young families living up in the foothills. Set of winter tires and they were good to go.
The information on the 3000GT and stealth is so inaccurate it's disgusting. Jesus man.. do some **bleep**en research first. Wikipedia alone could of helped clear up the obvious mistakes made.