'22 Civic Si carries six-speed torch, Lego kit previews next Batmobile, T.50 at full shriek

[Hagerty]

Intake: Driving enthusiasts and fans of the big H, rejoice: The new Civic Si is here. Like the previous generation, the new Si uses a turbocharged 1.5-liter four-cylinder engine, now good for 192 lb-ft of torque and 200 horsepower-same torque as before but five fewer ponies.
https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/the-manifold/2021-10-19/

[MidntPurpleRain]

Anyone taking bets on how long it'll take Hondata to come up with a flash tune to bring the HP of the Si to a place where it is competitive to the Volkswagen GTI? Don't get me wrong, the Si has always been a great car, but you can't ignore the big power difference between it and the GTI, which is the benchmark to that market segment.

[MATTMERICA]

Good for Honda for still making CARS

[MATTMERICA]

As for Mas, when Ferrari stopped making their engines, they lost what little appeal they had from me. So they are building a small SUV, because it took them how long to figure out the macan is the best selling porsche they make lol Good old Mas, always late to the party lol

[seinfeldbasslin]

lots of good news with the new civic Si but i cant help but feel a little disappointed. the gulf between the Si and the rest of the sport compact crowd is ever widening. ive driven the previous gen one, and while i understand that the mission is not RAW POWER and never has been, its getting increasingly hard to justify the purchase vs the competitive segment unless you are a true Honda person. its still not as bad as Subaru's highly disappointing new WRX reveal, but I will keep on waiting for the new Type R/Integra/Type S.

[MidntPurpleRain]

I agree with you there. The Si was much more competitive in the market in previous generations. It used to be a viable GTI alternative but it is becoming less as much with each iteration. But that being the case, I have hopes for the Integra that it'll fill the gap between the Si and the Type R.

[Gary_Bechtold]

The Gordon Murray Automotive T.50 sounds pretty good. Can't wait to see this thing get a full workout soon. Knowing the McLaren F1 everyone has high hopes for this car.